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- title: "Opinion | Sarah McBride on Why the Left Lost on Trans Rights - The New York Times"
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url: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/17/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-sarah-mcbride.html
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date: 2025-07-01T15:45:49Z
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- title: "Generative AI as a magic system – Tracy Durnell's Mind Garden"
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url: https://tracydurnell.com/2025/06/24/generative-ai-as-a-magic-system/
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- title: "Toward A Theory Of Kevin Roose | Defector"
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url: https://defector.com/toward-a-theory-of-kevin-roose?giftLink=0131f06f11f5f3dfe5152b52f0d2f2dc
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date: 2025-07-01T15:46:14Z
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- title: "Helix"
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url: https://lmno.lol/puddingtime/helix
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- title: "My AI Skeptic Friends Are All Nuts · The Fly Blog"
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> Maybe it is hurtful, but you can’t foster social change if you don’t have a conversation. You can’t change people if you exclude them. And I will just say, you can’t have absolutism on the left or the right without authoritarianism.
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> We treat generative AI like magic… and magic systems have rules. When creating fantasy worlds, writers think about who can use magic, how magic is performed, what it’s able to do, what its constraints are, what the source of magic is, and what it costs. I’m applying a bit of reverse worldbuilding to the real world to extrapolate the rules of the AI magic system.
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> My suspicion, my awful awful newfound theory, is that there are people with a sincere and even kind of innocent belief that we are all just picking winners, in everything: that ideology, advocacy, analysis, criticism, affinity, even taste and style and association are essentially predictions. That what a person tries to do, the essential task of a person, is to identify who and what is going to come out on top, and align with it.
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* [My AI Skeptic Friends Are All Nuts · The Fly Blog][12]
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> And here I rejoin your company. I read Simon Willison, and that’s all I really need. But all day, every day, a sizable chunk of the front page of HN is allocated to LLMs: incremental model updates, startups doing things with LLMs, LLM tutorials, screeds against LLMs. It’s annoying! But AI is also incredibly — a word I use advisedly — important. It’s getting the same kind of attention that smart phones got in 2008, and not as much as the Internet got. That seems about right.
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"You can't be a serious critic," New York Times technology reporter Kevin Roose
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wrote on Tuesday, [44]on Bluesky, about artificial intelligence, "if you're in
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denial about how useful it is." Narrowly, in strict terms, this is true: You
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can't be a serious critic of anything if you are in denial about any part of
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it, where "in denial" describes an irrational and unfounded rejection of
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empirical reality. That's hardly even worth saying, but it's also not really
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what Roose is saying.
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What Roose wants is to put an entire suite of claims about the technology
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presently doing business as "artificial intelligence"—not just that it has more
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than zero uses (a thing nobody really denies) but that it truly is artificial
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intelligence or anything like it; that it represents a profound leap forward
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for technology and human endeavor; that it is the future; that, as such,
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adopting it and integrating it into day-to-day work and life processes is the
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smart move—beyond dispute. He wants to marginalize the many technology experts,
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media knowers, and sharp lay readers who have for years been calling his work
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on behalf of those claims appalling boobery. He wants his readers to view all
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of those critics as coterminous with whatever minor body of irrelevant
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five-follower internet loons might bother trying to argue the literal
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uselessness of a predictive text generator or a program that collates search
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engine results into layperson's language. He wants his readers to think of all
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the critics as united in an essentially pathological relationship with the
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observable world. And he wants the juice of dancing this shitty little
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passive-aggressive jig on Bluesky, the social-media platform where many of
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those critics will encounter his work and, while dunking on it, also share it
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around to some number of people who will read it.
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Why do this crap? I think that I would be embarrassed. I think that after I'd
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[45]gassed up cryptocurrency and NFTs in the New York Times and told New York
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my wife, I would have asked my editor if maybe I could cover the Broadway beat
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for a while instead of continuing to smirk at the world while pouring fire ants
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down the front of my shorts for a living. So: Why do it? But also: How?
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I think about these questions a lot, certainly more than I should. (Not just
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about Kevin Roose! Sometimes also about Felix Salmon.) Some two decades since
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the digital-media attention economy took shape and, sheesh, like 13 years into
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my own career working in that economy, the list of the cold incentives that
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might drive a journalist toward this type of routine—attention, website
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traffic, access to industry honchos otherwise not inclined toward talking to
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the press, the possibility of later getting a nice job from one of them—is
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depressingly easy to conjure. But that list's plausibility as a Kevin Roose
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Explainer is, for me, limited by my fixed standing assumption that other people
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have and value dignity.
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Something occurred to me the other day when I was thinking about this—not even
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Tuesday! Not even prompted by this particular Kevin Roose Bluesky post!—and has
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been sort of following me around since, making me feel squirmy and
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uncomfortable and haunted. What occurred to me was the possibility that what
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had seemed, to me, like it could only come from a chilling and impossible level
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of cynicism might come instead from a perverse and even more chilling variety
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of mostly genuine belief. Not in the transformative power of AI! I'm talking
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about something wider and deeper and more frightening than that: a genuine and
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horribly earnest belief in not believing in anything.
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My suspicion, my awful awful newfound theory, is that there are people with a
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going to come out on top, and align with it. The rest—what you say, what you
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I was thinking about a lot of different stuff. I was thinking about the
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phenomenon of small-fry sports-bettor bros with no passion for any serious
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right-wing politics going big for Donald Trump in 2024 based on a view of their
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vote as something like a wager, and of Trump as the bold, ambitious
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choice—risky, but with the bigger potential payout. I was thinking about
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sophisticated, high-achieving tech-industry types abruptly throwing off all of
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their (thin, half-cooked, fundamentally dogshit, but still) liberal-libertarian
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politics to get behind an explicitly authoritarian program and help build its
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surveillance state. I was thinking about bushy-tailed go-getter types in legacy
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media who kept their language carefully bland around policing reform,
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anti-racism, and social justice during those topics' brief heightened salience
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around the George Floyd protests, and then smoothly pivoted to criticizing the
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excesses of woke when the winds changed. I was thinking about randos whom Elon
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Musk would not cross a sidewalk to piss on if they were on fire, who, when
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Trump invited Musk to gut federal government agencies and programs that benefit
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their own lives, rushed to tweet GIFs of Musk, like, dunking on somebody's head
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at his critics. I was thinking about [47]bag culture. And I was thinking about
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Kevin Roose, serially and with apparent enthusiasm donning each next pair of
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gigantic clown shoes handed to him by this or that Silicon Valley titan, and
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dancing in them long past the point when everybody else figured out it was all
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on behalf of a grift.
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To these people this kind of thing is not cynicism, both because they believe
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it's just what everybody is doing and because they do not regard it as ugly or
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underhanded or whatever. Making the right pick is simply being smart. And not
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necessarily in some kind of edgy-cool or subversive way, but smart the very
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same shit-eating way that the dorkus malorkus who gets onto a friendly
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first-name basis with the middle-school assistant principal is smart. They just
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authentically held objections or analysis at all, but simply because they can
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see that, at present, socialism is not winning. All the most powerful guys are
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against it. Can't those fools see it? They have picked a loser. They should
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pick the winner instead.
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cryptocurrency guys got behind Donald Trump, for these people the thing to do
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particularly admirable reasons; you might just be tired of looking like a
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right to have done so, because they had picked the winner; that the mega-rich
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AI industry buying its way into all corners of American society would mean that
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critics of the technology and of using it to displace human labors were not
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just defeated but meaningfully wrong in their criticisms; that some celebrity
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getting richer from a crypto rug-pull that ripped off hundreds of thousands of
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in it, because of how much richer it made them. Imagine holding this as an
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authentic understanding of how the world works: that the simple binary outcome
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of a contest had the power to reach back through time and adjust the ethical
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case, you would feel differently about what to the rest of us looks like
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straight-up shit eating.
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apparent embarrassment, without ever seeming to have learned anything or to
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have been chastened in the least by a series of cigars exploding in his face
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guaranteed-not-to-explode cigars was the way of the future. He is playing the
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long game. Non-fungible tokens turned out to be a musical-chairs scam, Web3
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nothing more than a Sony PlayStation in helmet form, crypto at best a
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speculative asset class and at worse a wilderness of Ponzi schemes. AI might
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thinks they are going to win, and that when they do win, it won't matter that
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the rest of us regarded his sucking up to them as a disgrace to journalism and
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human dignity. He is, I suppose I must grant, being very smart.
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[43] https://defector.com/toward-a-theory-of-kevin-roose?giftLink=0131f06f11f5f3dfe5152b52f0d2f2dc#coral_thread
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[76] https://defector.com/a-lot-can-go-wrong-while-attempting-a-speed-record-on-mount-everest
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[78] https://defector.com/it-feels-so-good-to-be-a-robber
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[79] https://defector.com/it-feels-so-good-to-be-a-robber#coral_thread
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[97] https://defector.com/the-wnba-and-its-expansion-fees-are-getting-bigger
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Tech execs are mandating LLM adoption. That’s bad strategy. But I get where
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coders are doing.
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ground truth about programming in the same way a Makefile is. You could write
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later with a PR. If you listen to me, you’ll know that. You’ll feel worse
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yak-shaving. You’ll end up doing… real work.
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You’ve always been responsible for what you merge to main. You were five years
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go. And you are tomorrow, whether or not you use an LLM.
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idiom, but we’re not there yet.
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It’s code. It’s not Yacc output. It’s knowable. The LLM might be stochastic.
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result, and whether your guardrails hold.
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Reading other people’s code is part of the job. If you can’t metabolize the
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boring, repetitive code an LLM generates: skills issue! How are you handling
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the chaos human developers turn out on a deadline?
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For the last month or so, Gemini 2.5 has been my go-to †. Almost nothing it
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spits out for me merges without edits. I’m sure there’s a skill to getting a
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SOTA model to one-shot a feature-plus-merge! But I don’t care. I like moving
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the code around and chuckling to myself while I delete all the stupid comments.
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I have to read the code line-by-line anyways.
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signature, the agent sees the error. They feed it back to the LLM, which says
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agent generates. Don’t. This is why I like [46]Zed’s agent mode: it begs you to
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tab away and let it work, and pings you with a desktop notification when it’s
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using LLMs, despite it being (more or less) a solved problem.
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[47]but the code is shitty, like that of a junior developer
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fleshly or algebraic. Using agents well is both a both a skill and an
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engineering project all its own, of prompts, indices, [48]and (especially)
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tooling. LLMs only produce shitty code if you let them.
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lot of typing, Googling, test cases †, and edit-compile-test-debug cycles. But
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even the most Claude-poisoned serious developers in the world still own
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curation, judgement, guidance, and direction.
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Rust”. Fair enough! But people select languages in part based on how well LLMs
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work with them, so Rust people should get on that †.
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didn’t set out to produce the most LLM-legible language in the industry. They
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succeeded nonetheless. Go has just enough type safety, an extensive standard
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library, and a culture that prizes (often repetitive) idiom. LLMs kick ass
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generating it.
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All this is to say: I write some Rust. I like it fine. If LLMs and Rust aren’t
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working for you, I feel you. But if that’s your whole thing, we’re not having
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the same argument.
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[50]but the craft
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Do you like fine Japanese woodworking? All hand tools and sashimono joinery? Me
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too. Do it on your own time.
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I have a basic wood shop in my basement †. I could get a lot of satisfaction
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from building a table. And, if that table is a workbench or a grill table,
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sure, I’ll build it. But if I need, like, a table? For people to sit at? In my
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office? I buy a fucking table.
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Professional software developers are in the business of solving practical
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problems for people with code. We are not, in our day jobs, artisans. Steve
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Jobs was wrong: we do not need to carve the unseen feet in the sculpture.
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Nobody cares if the logic board traces are pleasingly routed. If anything we
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build endures, it won’t be because the codebase was beautiful.
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golfing functions down into graceful, fluent, minimal functional expressions,
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alarm bells should ring. You’re yak-shaving. The real work has depleted your
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focus. You’re not building: you’re self-soothing.
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Which, wait for it, is something LLMs are good for. They devour schlep, and
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clear a path to the important stuff, where your judgement and values really
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As a mid-late career coder, I’ve come to appreciate mediocrity. You should be
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so lucky as to have it flowing almost effortlessly from a tap.
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We all write mediocre code. Mediocre code: often fine. Not all code is equally
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important. Some code should be mediocre. Maximum effort on a random unit test?
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You’re doing something wrong. Your team lead should correct you.
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Developers all love to preen about code. They worry LLMs lower the “ceiling”
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for quality. Maybe. But they also raise the “floor”.
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Gemini’s floor is higher than my own. My code looks nice. But it’s not as
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thorough. LLM code is repetitive. But mine includes dumb contortions where I
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got too clever trying to DRY things up.
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And LLMs aren’t mediocre on every axis. They almost certainly have a bigger bag
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of algorithmic tricks than you do: radix tries, topological sorts, graph
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reductions, and LDPC codes. Humans romanticize rsync ([52]Andrew Tridgell wrote
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a paper about it!). To an LLM it might not be that much more interesting than a
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SQL join.
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But I’m getting ahead of myself. It doesn’t matter. If truly mediocre code is
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all we ever get from LLMs, that’s still huge. It’s that much less mediocre code
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humans have to write.
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Smart practitioners get wound up by the AI/VC hype cycle. I can’t blame them.
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But it’s not an argument. Things either work or they don’t, no matter what
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Jensen Huang has to say about it.
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[54]but they take-rr jerbs
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[55]So does open source. We used to pay good money for databases.
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We’re a field premised on automating other people’s jobs away. “Productivity
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gains,” say the economists. You get what that means, right? Fewer people doing
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the same stuff. Talked to a travel agent lately? Or a floor broker? Or a record
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store clerk? Or a darkroom tech?
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When this argument comes up, libertarian-leaning VCs start the chant:
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lamplighters, creative destruction, new kinds of work. Maybe. But I’m not
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hypnotized. I have no fucking clue whether we’re going to be better off after
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LLMs. Things could get a lot worse for us.
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LLMs really might displace many software developers. That’s not a high horse we
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get to ride. Our jobs are just as much in tech’s line of fire as everybody
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else’s have been for the last 3 decades. We’re not [56]East Coast dockworkers;
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we won’t stop progress on our own.
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[57]but the plagiarism
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Artificial intelligence is profoundly — and probably unfairly — threatening to
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visual artists in ways that might be hard to appreciate if you don’t work in
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the arts.
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We imagine artists spending their working hours pushing the limits of
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expression. But the median artist isn’t producing gallery pieces. They produce
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on brief: turning out competent illustrations and compositions for magazine
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covers, museum displays, motion graphics, and game assets.
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LLMs easily — alarmingly — clear industry quality bars. Gallingly, one of the
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things they’re best at is churning out just-good-enough facsimiles of human
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creative work. I have family in visual arts. I can’t talk to them about LLMs. I
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don’t blame them. They’re probably not wrong.
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Meanwhile, software developers spot code fragments [58]seemingly lifted from
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public repositories on Github and lose their shit. What about the licensing? If
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you’re a lawyer, I defer. But if you’re a software developer playing this card?
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Cut me a little slack as I ask you to shove this concern up your ass. No
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profession has demonstrated more contempt for intellectual property.
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The median dev thinks Star Wars and Daft Punk are a public commons. The great
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cultural project of developers has been opposing any protection that might
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inconvenience a monetizable media-sharing site. When they fail at policy, they
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route around it with coercion. They stand up global-scale piracy networks and
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sneer at anybody who so much as tries to preserve a new-release window for a TV
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show.
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Call any of this out if you want to watch a TED talk about how hard it is to
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stream The Expanse on LibreWolf. Yeah, we get it. You don’t believe in IPR.
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Then shut the fuck up about IPR. Reap the whirlwind.
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It’s all special pleading anyways. LLMs digest code further than you do. If you
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don’t believe a typeface designer can stake a moral claim on the terminals and
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counters of a letterform, you sure as hell can’t be possessive about a
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red-black tree.
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[59]positive case redux
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When I started writing a couple days ago, I wrote a section to “level set” to
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the state of the art of LLM-assisted programming. A bluefish filet has a longer
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shelf life than an LLM take. In the time it took you to read this, everything
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changed.
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Kids today don’t just use agents; they use asynchronous agents. They wake up,
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free-associate 13 different things for their LLMs to work on, make coffee, fill
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out a TPS report, drive to the Mars Cheese Castle, and then check their
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notifications. They’ve got 13 PRs to review. Three get tossed and re-prompted.
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Five of them get the same feedback a junior dev gets. And five get merged.
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“I’m sipping rocket fuel right now,” a friend tells me. “The folks on my team
|
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|
who aren’t embracing AI? It’s like they’re standing still.” He’s not
|
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bullshitting me. He doesn’t work in SFBA. He’s got no reason to lie.
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There’s plenty of things I can’t trust an LLM with. No LLM has any of access to
|
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|
prod here. But I’ve been first responder on an incident and fed 4o — not
|
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|
o4-mini, 4o — log transcripts, and watched it in seconds spot LVM metadata
|
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corruption issues on a host we’ve been complaining about for months. Am I
|
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better than an LLM agent at interrogating OpenSearch logs and Honeycomb traces?
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No. No, I am not.
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To the consternation of many of my friends, I’m not a radical or a futurist.
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I’m a statist. I believe in the haphazard perseverance of complex systems, of
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institutions, of reversions to the mean. I write Go and Python code. I’m not a
|
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Kool-aid drinker.
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But something real is happening. My smartest friends are blowing it off. Maybe
|
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I persuade you. Probably I don’t. But we need to be done making space for bad
|
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arguments.
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[60]but i’m tired of hearing about it
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And here I rejoin your company. I read [61]Simon Willison, and that’s all I
|
||||||
|
really need. But all day, every day, a sizable chunk of the front page of HN is
|
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|
allocated to LLMs: incremental model updates, startups doing things with LLMs,
|
||||||
|
LLM tutorials, screeds against LLMs. It’s annoying!
|
||||||
|
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But AI is also incredibly — a word I use advisedly — important. It’s getting
|
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|
the same kind of attention that smart phones got in 2008, and not as much as
|
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the Internet got. That seems about right.
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I think this is going to get clearer over the next year. The cool kid
|
||||||
|
haughtiness about “stochastic parrots” and “vibe coding” can’t survive much
|
||||||
|
more contact with reality. I’m snarking about these people, but I meant what I
|
||||||
|
said: they’re smarter than me. And when they get over this affectation, they’re
|
||||||
|
going to make coding agents profoundly more effective than they are today.
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Jun 2, 2025
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Thomas Ptacek
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@tqbf
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[65] @tqbf
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[1] https://fly.io/
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[2] https://fly.io/blog/
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[3] https://fly.io/docs/about/brand/
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[5] https://fly.io/blog/
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[6] https://fly.io/phoenix-files/
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[7] https://fly.io/laravel-bytes/
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[8] https://fly.io/ruby-dispatch/
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[9] https://fly.io/django-beats/
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[10] https://fly.io/javascript-journal/
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[11] https://fly.io/security/
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[12] https://fly.io/infra-log/
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[13] https://fly.io/docs/
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[14] https://community.fly.io/
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[15] https://status.flyio.net/
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[16] https://fly.io/pricing/
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[17] https://fly.io/app/sign-in
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[18] https://fly.io/docs/hands-on/start/
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[19] https://fly.io/blog/feed.xml
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[20] https://fly.io/blog/
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[21] https://fly.io/phoenix-files/
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[22] https://fly.io/laravel-bytes/
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[23] https://fly.io/ruby-dispatch/
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[24] https://fly.io/django-beats/
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[25] https://fly.io/javascript-journal/
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[26] https://fly.io/security/
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[27] https://fly.io/infra-log/
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[28] https://fly.io/docs/
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[29] https://community.fly.io/
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[30] https://status.flyio.net/
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[31] https://fly.io/pricing/
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[32] https://fly.io/app/sign-in
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[33] https://fly.io/docs/hands-on/start/
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[34] https://fly.io/blog/feed.xml
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[35] https://twitter.com/share?text=My%20AI%20Skeptic%20Friends%20Are%20All%20Nuts&url=https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/&via=flydotio
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||||||
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[36] http://news.ycombinator.com/submitlink?u=https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/&t=My%20AI%20Skeptic%20Friends%20Are%20All%20Nuts
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||||||
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[37] http://www.reddit.com/submit?url=https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/&title=My%20AI%20Skeptic%20Friends%20Are%20All%20Nuts
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[38] https://twitter.com/tqbf
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[39] https://annieruygtillustration.com/
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[40] https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Design-Generic-Programming-Patterns/dp/0201704315
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[41] https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/#level-setting
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[42] https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/#the-positive-case
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[43] https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/#but-you-have-no-idea-what-the-code-is
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[44] https://github.com/PatrickJS/awesome-cursorrules
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[45] https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/#but-hallucination
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[46] https://zed.dev/agentic
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[47] https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/#but-the-code-is-shitty-like-that-of-a-junior-developer
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[48] https://fly.io/blog/semgrep-but-for-real-now/
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[49] https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/#but-its-bad-at-rust
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[50] https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/#but-the-craft
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[51] https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/#but-the-mediocrity
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[52] https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/course/15-749/READINGS/required/cas/tridgell96.pdf
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[53] https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/#but-itll-never-be-agi
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[54] https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/#but-they-take-rr-jerbs
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[55] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43776612
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[56] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_port_strike
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[57] https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/#but-the-plagiarism
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[58] https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.17035
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[59] https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/#positive-case-redux
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[60] https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/#but-im-tired-of-hearing-about-it
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[61] https://simonwillison.net/
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[62] https://twitter.com/share?text=My%20AI%20Skeptic%20Friends%20Are%20All%20Nuts&url=https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/&via=flydotio
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[63] http://news.ycombinator.com/submitlink?u=https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/&t=My%20AI%20Skeptic%20Friends%20Are%20All%20Nuts
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[64] http://www.reddit.com/submit?url=https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/&title=My%20AI%20Skeptic%20Friends%20Are%20All%20Nuts
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[65] https://twitter.com/tqbf
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[66] https://fly.io/blog/mcps-everywhere/
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[67] https://fly.io/blog/kamal-in-production/
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[68] https://fly.io/blog/mcps-everywhere/
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[69] https://fly.io/blog/kamal-in-production/
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[70] https://fly.io/
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[71] https://fly.io/about/
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[72] https://fly.io/pricing/
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[73] https://fly.io/jobs/
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[74] https://fly.io/blog/
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[75] https://fly.io/phoenix-files/
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[76] https://fly.io/laravel-bytes/
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[77] https://fly.io/ruby-dispatch/
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[78] https://fly.io/django-beats/
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[79] https://fly.io/javascript-journal/
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[80] https://fly.io/docs/
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[81] https://fly.io/docs/support/
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[82] https://fly.io/support/
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[83] https://status.flyio.net/
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[84] https://github.com/superfly/
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[85] https://twitter.com/flydotio
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[86] https://community.fly.io/
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[87] https://fly.io/docs/security/
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[89] https://fly.io/legal/terms-of-service
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[1]@puddingtime
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[2]sign in · [3]lmno.lol
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[4]Helix
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||||||
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I had insomnia a few nights ago, so I started fiddling with different things,
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||||||
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including the CLI tasks tool dstask, which is sort of TaskWarrior without the
|
||||||
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misanthropy. (I kid.)
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||||||
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you pop open $EDITOR in a Markdown note attached to the task. dstask is aware
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of any Markdown checklists inside the task note and blocks completion of the
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task if there are open ones.
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That's maybe bad for me because I am a compulsive subtask-maker with a bad
|
||||||
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habit of opening a task, loading the subtasks into my buffer, and just doing
|
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them all without looking back. So if I stick with it dstask may shape my habits
|
||||||
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that way.
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For some annoying reason, dstask also barfs if $EDITOR has an argument, e.g.
|
||||||
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emacsclient -nw, and I found myself once again writing some kind of wrapper for
|
||||||
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emacsclient. That is not Emacs' fault, but it raised the perennial question
|
||||||
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"when does $EDITOR come into play and do you need a whole-ass Emacs config for
|
||||||
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those times?"
|
||||||
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||||||
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So I think "your go-to for this used to be jed, which acts like Emacs where it
|
||||||
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matters." But I've been using evil in Emacs for years now: If I want to keep my
|
||||||
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muscle memory between quick CLI edits and my whole-ass Emacs config, what I
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really need is something from the vi family.
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sweet spot of "nimble" and "feature-packed." I burn through a few neovim
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||||||
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tutorials and starter kits (nooooooope) before stumbling into a feud between
|
||||||
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neovim people and Helix people on reddit.
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||||||
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It's pretty nice! It launches quickly. No plugin system so the futzmonkey sort
|
||||||
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of has to stay in its cage, but it's very batteries-included. I found a [5]
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||||||
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tutorial for setting it up for Markdown that wasn't overwhelming and helped me
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||||||
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get a sense of how its config works.
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(subject/verb, not verb/subject), so after bonking my head on those changes a
|
||||||
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few times I [6]cheated and lifted a few vimisms.
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||||||
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|
||||||
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default keybindings confused me the way nano often confuses me.
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[1] https://lmno.lol/puddingtime
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[2] https://lmno.lol/signin?goto=/puddingtime/helix
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[3] https://lmno.lol/
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[4] https://lmno.lol/puddingtime/helix
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[5] https://helix-editor-tutorials.com/tutorials/writing-documentation-and-prose-in-markdown-using-helix/
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[6] https://github.com/LGUG2Z/helix-vim/blob/master/config.toml
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[7] https://lmno.lol/
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[8] https://lmno.lol/blog/privacy-policy
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[9] https://lmno.lol/blog/terms-of-service
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Generative AI as a magic system
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We treat generative AI like magic… and magic systems have rules. When creating
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[156]Islands in the Sky by Death Valley Girls
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Who can use AI magic: magic users pay to use corporate AI magic systems. Those
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magic use is mostly limited to corporate largesse ultimately intended to build
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magic dependency.
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images that resemble art, and video that resembles reality. It can create
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magic itself cannot reference sources, though may be used in tandem with other
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tools that enable citation ([159]though with questionable accuracy). AI magic
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human-created art, [161]writing, speech, music, and video, classified and
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every grand the agency he worked for did. The mid-aughts were the dawn of the
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notebooks from the get-go.
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we do a lot of things. But we don’t mess with what made Field Notes Field
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bulk. When they began scaling up their print runs, they were able to get the
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price down to a couple dollars per book, and sell the three-packs for $13 to
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heroes.” There was a Timex watch, Ray-Bans, Sperry shoes—“and out of fucking
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[06-91352784-field-notes-at-20][Photo: courtesy Field Notes]
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are up to 67 editions. And over the years, the program has grown to include
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elaborate series like the brand’s popular[35] National Parks books,
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celebrations of[36] spaceflight and [37]letterpress, and dozens more themes.
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[05-91352784-field-notes-at-20]Rocky Mountain National Park by Rory Kurtz,
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Great Smoky Mountains National Park by Chris Turnham, Yellowstone National Park
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[09-91352784-field-notes-at-20]Emmy Star Brown, Flora [Photo: courtesy Field
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mercenary. He drops in with ideas; Coudal will, say, assign him to “go make
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[04-91352784-field-notes-at-20][Photo: courtesy Field Notes]
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Which is, in all likelihood, a valuable temp check.
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[i-2-91352784-field-notes-at-20]A sample of Aaron Draplin’s collection of
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vintage farmer’s memo books. Explore the digitized collection [38]here. [[39]
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Jr. (site credits)]
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“Aaron’s wisdom and inspiration are a constant good thing for the brand,”
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|
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big part of the general direction that the ship sails.”
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Generate more interest, tell interesting stories, get wider distribution.
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|
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didn’t lose any money. Isn’t that cool? I would have been okay if we did,” he
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[60] https://www.fastcompany.com/section/security
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[66] https://www.fastcompany.com/section/health
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[67] https://www.fastcompany.com/section/labor
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[75] https://www.fastcompany.com/best-workplaces-for-innovators/list
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[76] https://www.fastcompany.com/brands-that-matter/list
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[77] https://www.fastcompany.com/innovation-by-design/list
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[78] https://www.fastcompany.com/most-innovative-companies/list
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[79] https://www.fastcompany.com/next-big-things-in-tech/list
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[80] https://www.fastcompany.com/world-changing-ideas/list
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[81] https://www.instagram.com/FastCompany/
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[82] https://www.linkedin.com/company/fast-company
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[83] https://www.youtube.com/user/FastCompany
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[84] https://www.tiktok.com/@fastcompany
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[85] https://bsky.app/profile/fastcompany.com
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[86] https://www.facebook.com/FastCompany/
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[87] https://twitter.com/fastcompany
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[88] https://www.mansueto.com/vendor-policies/
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[89] https://www.fastcompany.com/90516811/fast-company-mediakit
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[90] https://www.mansueto.com/careers/
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[91] https://www.fastcompany.com/subscribe?itm_source=footer&itm_medium=button&itm_campaign=bottom
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[92] https://www.mansueto.com/privacy-policy/
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[93] https://www.mansueto.com/privacy-policy/#collection
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[94] https://kudos.fastcompany.com/
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[95] https://fastcompany.zendesk.com/hc/en-us
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[96] https://www.fastcompany.com/about-us
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[97] https://www.fastcompany.com/sitemap
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[98] https://www.newsguardtech.com/ratings/rating-process-criteria/
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[99] https://www.newsguardtech.com/ratings/rating-process-criteria/
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